Bridging Science and Faith: Laura Buckley's Journey of Trust and Resilience

Laura Buckley joins us on the Dorsey Ross Show to share her extraordinary journey of faith and her mission to bridge the gap between science and spirituality. Motivated by a deep conversation with her son, who had doubts about his faith, Laura dedicated herself to creating resources that offer tangible evidence and insights into Christianity. A heartfelt compliment from a choir member further fueled her passion for writing, spurring her commitment to provide hope and encouragement to others seeking faith.

Explore five compelling reasons to trust in God, ranging from historical artifacts and the intricacies of DNA to philosophical concepts and miraculous occurrences that defy explanation. Laura and I discuss how these elements serve as evidence of divine creation, while also highlighting the mental and physical health benefits that faith can bring. With personal stories of miracles, including a life-changing car accident during my teenage years, we reinforce the belief in a higher power through extraordinary experiences.

Life's toughest trials often test our faith, and Laura shares insights on building trust in God through ongoing challenges and daily conversations. As she navigates writing about faith amidst self-doubt and external pressure, she finds strength through her relationship with God and support from loved ones. Together, we reflect on personal stories of hardship, including my husband's accidents and the loss of my mother. These experiences ultimately renewed our sense of purpose and resilience, proving that faith can be a guiding light through the darkest times.


Laura Buckleys Book

https://www.amazon.com/21-Reasons-Trusting-God-Existence/dp/B0CK2ZSMCZ/

Laura Buckleys Website 

https://labuckley.com/

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Chapters

• 0:00 Exploring Faith and Spirituality With Laura
• 8:39 Miraculous Signs of God's Existence
• 20:00 Building Trust Through Faith Challenges
• 26:27 Trusting God Through Life's Trials

Transcript

Dorsey Ross: 0:15

Hello everyone, thank you again for joining me on another episode of the DorsiD Rush Show. Today we have a special guest with us. Her name is Laura Buckley, who is a devoted Christian writer who is committed to exploring the profound aspects of faith and spirituality. With a deep-rooted belief in the power of God and an unshakable trust in his divine plan, laura has a dedicated literacy learning to sharing the Christian message of hope, trust and unwavering faith with readers around the world. Raising faith with readers around the world. Laura has embarked on proof to reinforce the reader's confidence in God's provision and love. Laura's unique approach combines thorough research, personal reflection and a passion for connecting with readers on a solid excuse me, whole deep level. Her writing seeks to create a safe and welcoming space for individuals seeking spiritual understanding and a closer relationship with the divine. Laura, thank you so much for coming on the show today.

Laura Buckley: 2:03

Well, thank you, Dorsey, for having me. I appreciate it.

Dorsey Ross: 2:06

Absolutely, and, as my guests know, I always open up with an icebreaker question, and today's icebreaker question is what's the best compliment you ever received?

Laura Buckley: 2:22

Oh, wow, that's a big question. The best compliment I've ever received? Okay, I'm going to have to go with the best most recent compliment I've received, one of the ladies from my church. She's in my choir group. I've been getting her to read the book for a while. She said she's going to. She finally started reading it and she came to me in just complete, utter awe it's the only way I can describe it. She looked at me and she said Laura, that is an amazing book. You've written so insightful, so well-written. I just I can't believe it. And I, you know, and part of me goes, part of me goes. Well, okay, do people not think that I can do that? But she was so sincere, so absolutely sincere, that you know it's like. And when people come to you and tell you that you did something great and wonderful, then you know it's nothing. But you know, inspiring to myself, right.

Dorsey Ross: 3:27

Why are you passionate about what you do?

Laura Buckley: 3:32

I think I'm passionate because of my son, my son. So to give you a little information about you know how I got to where I am with writing this book, my son, who's a very loving, kind, big hearted, uh, young man, about six years ago, when he was about 16 or so, he came to me one day and he said, mom, I don't think, I believe anymore. And and I'm like, what do you mean? And it took him a lot of strength to come to me and tell me that and we talked about it for like a good hour, I would say about you know what made him not believe? And he's gone to church, he went to religious ed classes. You know, he just in his school he was a scientific, you know type kid and very much into those type of classes computer, et cetera and he had classmates that just simply didn't believe and apparently a lot of stuff that they teach in school is very non, non, god, non, you know, supernatural, not any. And for him he that's what he was hearing, that's what he heard. So the last thing I told him was, if I can find information, he wanted some proof, some tangible proof. And he goes if I can find you something, would you listen to me? Would you listen to what I'm telling you? And he goes yes. So it took me a little while and I put together some information for him and got that information in front of him, including this ginormous book of scientific proof for him, because that's what he was into. But we watched, you know, like a video, and went through some different basically it was more of the artifacts type thing and where you know all the different manuscripts are and the fact that this stuff is still there, still, you know, tangibly there, and I guess he only read like one chapter, one chapter of that scientific book. And he ended up going okay, if they can write that long of a book over scientific proof, I'm good, I'm good. So, and that wasn't the start of it, that was just kind of like okay, that's cool.

Laura Buckley: 5:47

But then I realized, with my research and with his knowledge, I was like wait a minute, there's nothing out there for these young adults to grab a hold of and say out there for these young adults to grab a hold of and say, in a fairly short, respectively, attention span, to go okay, here's a reason to believe, here's a reason to believe. Here's a reason to believe Because it's just like I said that big, you know, thick book type thing on one subject, or you know just a couple subjects and these kids just need something to go. Should I believe or not believe? And then at that point then you take it from there and go okay, I believe. Now where do I want to go? As far as my knowledge and further research, I, you know, I like this idea, I like what was presented. I want to go the scientific way, I want to go the historic way or I want to go, you know, just you know, into the church and go from there. So, yeah, Was.

Dorsey Ross: 6:40

That was the book that your son read. Do you remember the title of it and who wrote it, and was it based on a, on the Christian faith, or was it just a secular book that somebody came up with?

Laura Buckley: 6:54

You know, I do not have that book in front of me, so I apologize, I don't have that book in front of me, so I apologize, I don't have that. It was definitely just a huge scientific book. You know, for him he said, you know he understood the first chapter, but it was really hard, you know, to really understand he goes. You know, there's no way somebody would just pick up this book and read this and feel like, hey, oh, that makes sense to me and as far as you know it was. It was I don't know if I want to say it was Christian based because, honestly, I didn't read it because it was just too much for me. I'm not of that mindset, but you know, it just kind of proved that there was a God.

Laura Buckley: 7:35

And I think science nowadays have gone to that point, or gone further, to that point of, oh well, because we cannot prove that there isn't a God and because certain things we cannot explain in our scientific research, there's got to be something that's larger than, you know, the Big Bang Theory or whatever they're going with at the time, that shows that there's something out there that started this, that caused this, that caused at least that initial reaction, the initial start to the universe and our DNA and how our DNA is made up and so unique for each person. You know, three billion letters long the DNA is. I mean, you know, this stuff doesn't just pop out of the air, and I think that's what the scientists are now saying. They're like this kind of stuff we can't reproduce, we can't make this happen. You know, this isn't something that, there's something else that influenced this and caused this.

Dorsey Ross: 8:40

You mentioned that you wrote a book and it's called 21 Reasons for Trusting in God. Can you give us five of those reasons why we should trust in God?

Laura Buckley: 8:54

Oh, sure, sure, Well, so if you want, like that proof type thing, there's a hundred thousand artifacts in existence that will prove the biblical during the time of Jesus, that the whole gospel, like it, goes back to different sections of the gospel and proves the gospel. So that's an amazing number of artifacts that are there and available. And I mentioned the DNA. The DNA is one of the other things that kind of proves God's existence. Because they can't reproduce that that information is just unreproducible, so that's a great one. Just unreproducible, so that's a great one.

Laura Buckley: 9:43

One of the things that they talk about a lot in the philosophical end of things is that there has to be a cause. So if something exists, something caused it to exist. And this is more of a mental twister type thing. You know that a lot of people don't get into, but you know some do where, if there is something that exists, there had to be a cause. Therefore, if it does exist, there was a cause. What was that cause? And that's kind of a logical explanation for God.

Laura Buckley: 10:15

Okay, other things are miracles. Miracles are huge and I don't think they're I don't want to say in the news enough, but they're not readily available enough because they happen on a very regular basis and we just don't hear about them, don't know about them. Lot of doctors probably maybe you know know about some of those that happen, you know, in the hospital. But there's things that happen outside the hospital whether it be at Lourdes or just a prayer going into a church that happen all the time and there's no way to explain it. No way to explain it except that there is somebody larger than us that is looking out for us, protecting us and caring for us. So to me that's a huge proof as well, because I've had that happen in my own life.

Laura Buckley: 11:08

And then you know if you want another one, it's just health-wise. If you don't believe in God and don't have that trust in something protecting you and looking out for you, you can get really, I think, mentally kind of messed up. You know, you can get kind of really into your head thinking about all this stuff and that causes physical reactions. And so they have proven through different studies that when people believe in a God, believe in his protection, believe in his love, they calm down, their blood pressure goes down, they accept things better, they feel better, they can handle things better and, honestly, just the peace that it brings me. I you know, there's nothing else that can cause that. There's nothing else that can cause that. So those are just some quick overviews. I guess that I just gave you, but yeah.

Dorsey Ross: 12:10

You know. Going back to the artifacts that you mentioned, that they found, you know, in the Bible readings and you know, for the Bible times, I was doing a, you know, youth group study on certain videos and they were talking about that they haven't like excavated, they only excavated like 5% of the whole area of the Bible. You know for the Bible times.

Laura Buckley: 12:38

Okay, yeah, yeah, so there's probably so much more there that we just don't have in our hands For the Bible times.

Laura Buckley: 12:44

Okay, yeah, yeah, so there's probably so much more there that we just don't have in our hands.

Laura Buckley: 12:47

I know they found the cross and there was a miracle that happened when they first found the cross and it was kind of how they tested, because there was three crosses right, and there's three crosses there with the two thieves and then Jesus in the middle, and they all were kind of made of the same material.

Laura Buckley: 13:02

They knew that it was a material from back then, but what they did is they had a lady who I don't know what her symptoms were, I don't remember at this point in time sick in some way, needed some sort of healing in some way, and they touch the crosses and when she touched what they now say is Jesus's original you know, the cross that he was crucified on she was healed, and so that's how they knew. And there's more healings that have happened since then. The cross has actually been splintered and pulled apart and I wish it hadn't. That just makes me cringe a little bit, but there's pieces of the cross that have been on display throughout the world and you know people have used that kind of just like touching his cloak when he was alive or whatever.

Dorsey Ross: 13:51

So yeah, Tell us about your first miracle at 15.

Laura Buckley: 13:57

Sure, sure. So this was a big like OK, there's a God, you know, because I believed in God before that. I believed through. You know what my parents taught me through going to church.

Laura Buckley: 14:09

But when I was 15, I was with my friend in a car. She was just a driving age. I didn't have a seat belt on because her seat belt didn't work. I tried. This was when seatbelts were fairly new as well, so it was no big deal for me not to have a seatbelt on.

Laura Buckley: 14:26

But she was driving us back home and she was talking to me, just kind of looking at me, and I kind of looked up and I saw in front of me the light was red and a car coming through and there was no time for her to react. We were going straight into the car. We went straight into the car and straight into a tree. I didn't realize it at the time, but I was passed out and laying on my friend's lap, so I was actually over in the driver's side and these were big cars back then, not to age myself too much here. But I looked in the window and this is what I remember. I looked in the window and there was a gentleman there and he just looked at me and he goes are you okay? And I just kind of responded yes. And the next thing I know I was waking up, saw myself on my friend's lap got myself, you know, back together, for whatever reason.

Laura Buckley: 15:21

My reaction was starting to pick up my purse because my stuff flew everywhere and you know, we had then the first. I could hear the ambulance and everything coming. They were quickly coming and they came up to the window and they were asking us if we were OK. At this point my friend, you know, kind of came back to and we're like, yeah, we're okay, where's the guy? Where's the guy that was just here? This guy was just here and he asked me if I was okay. Already they're looking around and there's nobody else here. We're the first ones on the scene. Nobody's standing around. That looks like the gentleman that I described to them, so he wasn't there.

Laura Buckley: 15:59

To kind of further on the story, what really kind of put it at home is that when they took the car in to the junkyard because the car was totaled our car was totaled, which neither of us were injured, by the way, not, you know anything, big, just sore Took the car into the junkyard. The junkyard manager said, hey, I'm so sorry for your loss. And they're like what are you talking about? And they said, well, the junkyard manager said, well, the person that went through the windshield on the passenger side, you know, obviously passed away. I've never seen anybody live, you know, hitting the windshield like that and they're like no, she's perfectly fine at home, just a little sore. So that just kind of that whole combination of seeing that figure in the window and then knowing that I hit that windshield so hard that they thought I should have passed away, you know, that just kind of really made me feel like okay, there's somebody watching out for me and my parents, my mom even said there's a reason why you're still alive.

Dorsey Ross: 17:06

Yeah, now, that person that was by the window asking you, are you okay? Could it have been the other driver or somebody else from the other car, or was that disproven?

Laura Buckley: 17:22

Yeah, the other car. There was a lady driving, nobody else, just a lady driving that car. She did get in the ambulance but she was okay in the end. You know I don't know the whole story because it was my friend's car and her driving, but she wasn't, you know, hurt to the point where she was. You know she went home that night later too, there was nobody standing around. You know, if somebody's going to come up to your car and say, are you okay, and you know the fireman, he's like we're the first ones on the scene, I, you know there's nobody else here. They don't just disappear that quickly. So you know, and typically if somebody was wanting to check on you, if you're okay, they kind of watch out and stand around and you know, yeah, yeah.

Dorsey Ross: 18:06

So I truly believe it was an angel of some sort your bio and on your website that as you got older in your college years you started to drift away a little bit from you know from God or from your belief in God. And why was that?

Laura Buckley: 18:31

College years are really hard, I think, you know, for a lot of people. You want to, you want to play the college role, you want to enjoy yourself, you want to. You know you're studying, you're meeting new people, you're trying to get used to living in a dorm room with somebody else. So the last thing you usually do is just get up and go. Okay, I'm going to go to church this morning. You know, it just doesn't.

Laura Buckley: 18:54

I don't know why, you know it doesn't always connect with people, but that kind of, you know, I felt it. I felt immediately when I started doing that I was like, oh man, I miss that connection, I miss going to church. And it's an interesting thing because you just kind of that connection, that community that you have at church, dissipates so quickly if you're not going on a regular basis. So I think you know that just really hit home for me. I felt like I needed to go and I did try to go. I think I, you know, tried to go on occasion, went to a couple activities that they had, you know, in the social hall type thing, social hall type thing, and luckily I found a group of friends in our dorm that were very Christian and they helped, you know, introduce me to music, and we went and visited other churches and kind of re-centered myself to saying, okay, yeah, yep, I got to keep God, you know, in the forefront, or at least somewhere nearby, somewhere nearby.

Dorsey Ross: 20:01

In your book that we mentioned earlier, you talked about trusting in God. How do you personally define and practice trust in your daily life?

Laura Buckley: 20:15

Yeah, that's a good question. I think putting trust in God is really a long-term, everyday thing that you have to work on. It's not, you know, I trust that he is looking over my activities and what I do. Now, I haven't always been that way. Now, I haven't always been that way.

Laura Buckley: 20:36

There was a long time where I felt like, okay, I believe in God, it's good, I believe in Jesus, it's good. But I'm, you know, walking through life like a lot of people do, just walking through life, doing my own thing, whether it be, you know, work, friends, whatever I'm doing, family, et cetera. But at least in those days, I wasn't giving my all to God, I wasn't giving my heart, my soul to God. And honestly, since I wrote the book, between the time that I started writing the book and even till just within the last couple of months, I really now, just now, feel like, okay, I know what it means to trust in God, because I had to get really close to him and I feel like people need to really realize that being close to God means talking to him, not just once a day, not just okay, I'm going to say a quick prayer in the morning, the Our Father in the evening and I'm done.

Laura Buckley: 21:36

It's a relationship and that relationship has to be fostered, just like any other relationship. It's not that he's not there for you, it's not that he doesn't love you and wants to have that relationship, but you have to put that effort in for Him to really for you to hear Him and connect with Him. It's your end that can't connect sometimes, I think, with God enough that you can really feel that full trust and that full love. It's hard to explain, but you'll feel it inside. You'll feel it inside and you'll know it.

Dorsey Ross: 22:06

You'll know it.

Laura Buckley: 22:08

Every day. Now I just, you know, I ask him for his guidance, I ask him for him to protect me, to show me what to do for that day, and then at the end of the day, you know, just kind of say did I do the right thing? Please help me to do better tomorrow.

Dorsey Ross: 22:25

Yeah, if you know, for people that are listening that may feel like they lack trust in God, how would you? You know? What encouragement would you?

Laura Buckley: 22:42

give to them to help them to trust in God more. Yeah, I mean, obviously as a selfish point, I would say read the book. Okay, just because trusting first of all comes with belief. Okay, you can't trust in somebody you know until you're friends with somebody, know somebody. You don't put your trust in them completely. So you have to get to know them first.

Laura Buckley: 23:02

You have to go through that process of who is God? Why should I believe in him? Now I believe. What do I do with this belief? Where do I go with this belief? How am I supposed to connect with him? How does he help me? Where do I connect? How do I supposed to connect with him? How does he help me? Where do I connect? How do I serve him? Or how do I you know what is my next steps? And all this has to come, and it's kind of sequential, I believe, and in your life to then, once you get all those pieces put together, that relationship is really kind of stronger, because then you know, you know in your heart that, oh, god is real, I can put my faith in him, I know he's there for me. And you just go through that process of for me and I'm just going to be Dorsey. This was one of the things that I did.

Laura Buckley: 23:52

After I wrote the book I'm like it brought up more questions and that's why in the book I say quite often that's okay, questions are good. Questions are good Because I needed those questions to continue my research, to continue my journey, to continue my belief myself. Because all these questions popped up. So those questions, once I got you know, started answering those questions that I had. Then I knew, okay, now I got my answers. Now I know, now I completely 100% in there and I think everybody has a different journey. Everybody's going to have a different you know timeframe in which they go through, but you have to go through it. You have to keep fighting for it and keep learning and answer those questions and find that relationship with our Lord.

Dorsey Ross: 24:43

What challenges did you face while writing the book and how did you faith guide you through those challenges?

Laura Buckley: 25:12

Hmm. So challenges, you know, faith had to be there to write the book. So challenges for me were mentally am I doing the right thing? Am I hearing God? Is this what God wants me to write?

Laura Buckley: 25:17

I was being challenged, by friends as well, challenged by just what was happening in my world around me, whether it be finances, trying to find money to produce the book, whether it be just time frame that it took me to write the book in comparison to what I wanted. And just I felt like I was constantly being barraged by questioning myself, and I don't know that it was God questioning, I don't know. I think there was other forces making me do that. Okay, so I think there's, you know, good and evil in this world, and the evil didn't want me to write the book. So so, yeah, those challenges were there and it took actually my husband.

Laura Buckley: 26:01

He finally looked at me and goes we talked about this, laura. And it took actually my husband. He finally looked at me and goes. We talked about this, laura that when you write this book, that he's not going to like it, that you know Satan's going to be there and he's going to take you on a journey himself, and that's what this is right now, so go back to God and don't let him take over. So those were the. You know that was a big challenge, right?

Dorsey Ross: 26:28

Tell us about the accident your husband had.

Laura Buckley: 26:29

Oh, you know and this is interesting, dorsey, because just before we got on this podcast I'm like that's right, I forgot because the accident took over my mind at the time and two days before. So it was on a weekend that my husband went up to see his mom and when he went up there he had stopped and eaten something, but he had just started a new medicine and when he got up there he started feeling bad. The next day he's like calling me going. I don't feel good, I've been throwing up, I've got something I don't know if it was the food I ate, et cetera. About four hours later I got this phone call saying from his mom going okay, took him to the hospital because he couldn't breathe and he was having such a severe allergic reaction that he went into that anaphylactic shock stage where he couldn't breathe. So I thought I lost him then.

Laura Buckley: 27:26

And he comes home Sunday night we go out to dinner and Monday he falls off a ladder two stories high and he ended up just totally blasting, both of you know, in the bottom half of your leg. Don't ask me to remember the names of those two bones back down there, but right below his knee. Both of those bones just were completely shattered to the point where they couldn't count the pieces when they were in there trying to put them back together. He had carp, carp, carp oh, I cannot say the word carp where you the carpmental syndrome, where they, you know, like inside your body, it tries to kill that part of your body because it's just too much for your body and it says, okay, I'm going to get rid of that part of my body. And so they had to go in and do a first surgery just to take care of that. Three weeks or two weeks later they finally had him put back together. They had a bunch of you, bunch of pieces of metal in him. Put him back together, okay, great.

Laura Buckley: 28:28

So he had a long haul trying to heal and he was starting to go to get his therapy and the next thing, you know, he has an infection and the infection meant that they had to take out all those pieces of metal in him. And the doctor at this time had been talking to me beforehand. But you know, kind of, really, at this particular stage, stage, said Laura, we're likely going to have to remove his leg because it's just it's not going to heal properly. There's too much, there's so much damage, there's so much pain that he's going to have being able to walk. It's going to have being able to walk. Is going to be a struggle. Just letting you know to be prepared for this.

Laura Buckley: 29:09

But of course we didn't tell my husband, because why would you tell somebody that that might happen to them? Right? You know you want them to fight as best they could. So he thought, fought through it. And to all of us, including the doctor, our surprise is that he walks basically normal. I mean, you know, if you don't really look for it, you don't know. It's there, right, he's probably. There's a separation between his right knee and his left knee as far as height goes, but right now it's not affecting him. Tons of scars, obviously, on his leg, but he can walk normally. And the doctor said no, there's something higher, something bigger, looking out for you, because there was no way that that was me. Amen, yeah.

Dorsey Ross: 29:59

You've been through a lot in your life and your family's been through a lot in their life. You know your family Things do a lot in their life. Yet you still grew closer to God when someone would or would you know, maybe would even walk away and say you know, god's not real, god's not in this. You know why is he throwing this all at me at one time. I can't handle this anymore. Throwing this all at me at one time. I can't handle this anymore. Why was it that?

Laura Buckley: 30:33

you grew closer to God. Yeah, and it's true, and I think a lot of people would. And I was there, I was there, I was almost there. So I think it's hard, depending on where you're at. You know, god gives you just enough things and gives you enough strength to get through things right, and my things were not as bad as other people's. I mean, I just can't imagine some people's trials that they go through, but the trials are there for a reason and I knew it after my husband fell off the roof and when he was healing, I was like there's something bigger, something bigger. God's testing us right now and he's preparing us. And I think that the breaking point was when my mom unexpectedly passed.

Laura Buckley: 31:19

At that time we were just over COVID. We were just over COVID, so you weren't going to church, we weren't doing the things like you normally do, and I kind of just probably like a lot of people, kind of fell away from God a little bit then too, because I just you just didn't have that community, you just didn't have that constant reminder and practice and activity. And I was there. I was there. I had lost not only my mom, but my dad has Alzheimer's, dementia, heart issues, so he needed a lot of care, so we were taking turns caring for him. My sisters got angry at me, which we were all angry at the time, obviously but I felt like I lost everything between, you know, covid, and not being at church, between my mom gone my dad really wasn't there, you know as far as being able to talk to my sisters, not being upset with me, and we had moved. We had moved too, so I had moved away from friends and people that I knew. I thought I lost everything.

Laura Buckley: 32:25

I thought why, why, god, why, why am I going through this? Why is this happening? There is no, I can't handle this. I just can't handle this, and I've never said this before. I'm not sure I feel comfortable saying this, but I was seriously there where I thought about running off the road, I thought about taking my own life, I didn't and I sat on the side of the road crying, shaking, and I had two people pull over why, I don't know.

Laura Buckley: 32:57

God was putting them in my life and they talked to me. They were very kind, very listening, and I just went home and I'm like, okay, god, I give it all to you. I'm done. I can't Tell me where to go. It's up to you. You have to control this. I can't, I can't do this anymore. And that was it. That was the change. It wasn't until I surrendered completely to him and said I can't do this, you do this, I can't do it, that. I that God just immediately, and I felt so much better immediately. That was like a relief. You know that that weight was taken off my shoulder Right. That weight was taken off my shoulder.

Dorsey Ross: 33:45

Right. Can you share with us a memorable story from your own life that illustrates the power of faith and trust in God?

Laura Buckley: 33:56

Oh, a rememberable story. You know there's a lot of stories, obviously, that were very impactful in my life. You know I'm going to have to use something that happened more recently than not. So one of the things that made me just trust in God is that I was in there with my dad after my mom had passed that night and my mom had.

Laura Buckley: 34:27

I don't know if you've ever seen or heard of those like little dolls that are like cats and dogs and they're sitting on a little mat and they're breathing, you know, and they're purring and whatever. They're just, you know, mechanical things, whatever. So this little cat hadn't purred in years. My mom could not get it to purr. It basically was done, you know, mechanically, was done. That night I heard this sound and my dad said I said what is that sound? And he goes it's the cat, it's purring. I'm like what are you talking about? It hadn't purred in years. You, you know, and I felt like that was, you know, mom doing that, my mom doing that for me, and she did it for my sisters too, because it stopped by the next morning. It wasn't, you know, purring anymore, wasn't moving anymore. That next night it did the same thing for my sisters. They were there and it started purring. The same thing for my sisters. They were there and it started purring and it hasn't purred or breathed since then.

Laura Buckley: 35:29

So you know, it's just these awesome things that happen in your life and it doesn't have to be that big. It can be something small, like you just look up and you see the beauty of the glistening of the icicles on the tree, or you. You know that you're looking like I love trees. I'm looking at, I'm like, oh, it's a beautiful big tree. You know, you know God made these things. And just those those little things, those little hints of hey, I'm here, you know, and I love you, and I'm here, and you don't see him unless you, you believe in him. And then all of a sudden it's like all these lovely things just happen to you.

Dorsey Ross: 36:08

Yeah, well, as we get ready to end, I always ask my guests to give my listeners an encouraging word about you. Know, whatever you feel led to here, mm-hm.

Laura Buckley: 36:24

Yeah, I guess you know my encouragement is for specifically, you know, for those that are either questioning their belief or are not believers, is to make sure you do the research, because when you do that research and you see both sides, that's when you learn, that's when you grow, that's when you start questioning more and can find out more about God and faith and love, and that's what God is. God is love and I just encourage you to, if you have questions, continue to follow those questions and find answers. Talk to somebody, go to your, go to your church pastor and just talk to somebody about it and keep searching and praying. You'll get your answer, amen.

Dorsey Ross: 37:13

Thank you so much for coming on the show today. We greatly appreciate having you.

Laura Buckley: 37:19

Oh well, thank you, dorsey, I'm so glad I came on. I really appreciate it. It was a very nice conversation with you, absolutely. Well, guys and girls, I'm so glad I came on. I really appreciate it. It was a very nice conversation with you, absolutely.

Dorsey Ross: 37:26

Well, guys and girls, thank you so much for coming on and for listening. Please like and share this episode and please continue to listen, and we'll put a link to also her website so you can connect with her. And until next time, god bless, bye-bye.